Comments on: Corruption of inspectors: the role of social pressure http://www.qualityinspection.org/corruption-of-inspectors-social-pressure/ Advice and tips for successful quality control of consumer products made in China & Asia: sourcing strategies, quality control... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:05:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Are China QC inspectors getting lazy? http://www.qualityinspection.org/corruption-of-inspectors-social-pressure/comment-page-1/#comment-9220 Are China QC inspectors getting lazy? Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:08:35 +0000 http://www.qualityinspection.org/?p=1116#comment-9220 [...] My conclusion is that properly-managed and -motivated inspectors will do a good job by respecting the procedure. And badly-supervised inspectors will cost a lot of money to their employers because of their shortcuts (or their conscious decisions of accepting bribes). [...] [...] My conclusion is that properly-managed and -motivated inspectors will do a good job by respecting the procedure. And badly-supervised inspectors will cost a lot of money to their employers because of their shortcuts (or their conscious decisions of accepting bribes). [...]

]]> By: Training of in-house inspectors in China: too often neglected http://www.qualityinspection.org/corruption-of-inspectors-social-pressure/comment-page-1/#comment-3023 Training of in-house inspectors in China: too often neglected Thu, 25 Nov 2010 14:30:55 +0000 http://www.qualityinspection.org/?p=1116#comment-3023 [...] There is usually no clear procedure and no strict supervision, so the situation gets worse and worse over time. They all acquire bad habits–not only in their work, but also in their behavior (see my previous post about the corruption of quality inspectors). [...] [...] There is usually no clear procedure and no strict supervision, so the situation gets worse and worse over time. They all acquire bad habits–not only in their work, but also in their behavior (see my previous post about the corruption of quality inspectors). [...]

]]> By: Renaud Anjoran http://www.qualityinspection.org/corruption-of-inspectors-social-pressure/comment-page-1/#comment-3013 Renaud Anjoran Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:49:05 +0000 http://www.qualityinspection.org/?p=1116#comment-3013 Yes, some factories really have no concept about what is to be avoided with foreigners. And you can send them all the terms & conditions & warnings you want, even in Chinese and in 25-point font, they just don't read it and don't care. Yes, some factories really have no concept about what is to be avoided with foreigners. And you can send them all the terms & conditions & warnings you want, even in Chinese and in 25-point font, they just don’t read it and don’t care.

]]> By: Sourcing QC http://www.qualityinspection.org/corruption-of-inspectors-social-pressure/comment-page-1/#comment-3012 Sourcing QC Tue, 23 Nov 2010 10:24:09 +0000 http://www.qualityinspection.org/?p=1116#comment-3012 I had a factory manager from Yong Kang City call me and say he forgot to bribe my QC Inspector and could he pay me? I had to laugh, I told him that we don't take bribes. Our service has a 100% guarantee to our customer. His shipment failed and it had to be re made to the required standard. I had a factory manager from Yong Kang City call me and say he forgot to bribe my QC Inspector and could he pay me? I had to laugh, I told him that we don’t take bribes. Our service has a 100% guarantee to our customer. His shipment failed and it had to be re made to the required standard.

]]> By: Renaud Anjoran http://www.qualityinspection.org/corruption-of-inspectors-social-pressure/comment-page-1/#comment-622 Renaud Anjoran Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:32:27 +0000 http://www.qualityinspection.org/?p=1116#comment-622 @ Steven: You are right, it definitely works both ways. Inspectors and purchasers demand some benefits by using their power in the relationship. Then it becomes usual for (but highly resented by) suppliers to provide benefits, simply because it is expected. Once a factory has concluded that it is part of business, it is will do it systematically. For example, the driver has instructions and a special allowance for it. It seems like most inspectors appreciate it and enjoy it, unfortunately. Of course, internal auditors in inspection firms make it clear that it is forbidden. I agree with you, these "benefits" will be present as long as they are not regarded a corruption and are not punished. @ Steven: You are right, it definitely works both ways.
Inspectors and purchasers demand some benefits by using their power in the relationship. Then it becomes usual for (but highly resented by) suppliers to provide benefits, simply because it is expected.
Once a factory has concluded that it is part of business, it is will do it systematically. For example, the driver has instructions and a special allowance for it.
It seems like most inspectors appreciate it and enjoy it, unfortunately. Of course, internal auditors in inspection firms make it clear that it is forbidden.
I agree with you, these “benefits” will be present as long as they are not regarded a corruption and are not punished.

]]> By: Steven http://www.qualityinspection.org/corruption-of-inspectors-social-pressure/comment-page-1/#comment-621 Steven Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:12:35 +0000 http://www.qualityinspection.org/?p=1116#comment-621 My brother and I run a small factory in Taizhou, Zhejiang province, we would look at the issue differently, Renaud. We, as supplier, don't like to pay purchasers/quality inspector commission, we don't like to bribe them unless we have to. In the business practise, the purchaser and quality inspector will ask for benefit(commission, money, gift, meal, or sex bribe), we are confident in the competitiveness of our products, the quality, the price. But in many cases, if we refuse their request, we will lose the order, we will fail the test, we will lose the business. We are not alone, as I have worked in 5 to 6 companies, from manufacturer to trade company, the situation are all the same. I would look at the issue from society development point of view. I mean the lgeal system, the penalty system or to put it precisely, the law enforcement in China are not mature or developed enough to tackle the commercial corruption issue, commercial corruption is no difference to corruption in the politcal area. My brother and I run a small factory in Taizhou, Zhejiang province, we would look at the issue differently, Renaud.

We, as supplier, don’t like to pay purchasers/quality inspector commission, we don’t like to bribe them unless we have to. In the business practise, the purchaser and quality inspector will ask for benefit(commission, money, gift, meal, or sex bribe), we are confident in the competitiveness of our products, the quality, the price. But in many cases, if we refuse their request, we will lose the order, we will fail the test, we will lose the business.

We are not alone, as I have worked in 5 to 6 companies, from manufacturer to trade company, the situation are all the same.

I would look at the issue from society development point of view. I mean the lgeal system, the penalty system or to put it precisely, the law enforcement in China are not mature or developed enough to tackle the commercial corruption issue, commercial corruption is no difference to corruption in the politcal area.

]]> By: Corruption In China Through Social Pressure: Downfall By Chinese Wedding. ­ Share My Live http://www.qualityinspection.org/corruption-of-inspectors-social-pressure/comment-page-1/#comment-620 Corruption In China Through Social Pressure: Downfall By Chinese Wedding. ­ Share My Live Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:44:32 +0000 http://www.qualityinspection.org/?p=1116#comment-620 [...] Quality Inspection blog recently did a post entitled, “Corruption of inspectors: the role of social pressure,” discussing the “risk of corruption of inspectors in factories.” The post posits [...] [...] Quality Inspection blog recently did a post entitled, “Corruption of inspectors: the role of social pressure,” discussing the “risk of corruption of inspectors in factories.” The post posits [...]

]]> By: Corruption In China Through Social Pressure: Downfall By Chinese Wedding. | Manufacturer China http://www.qualityinspection.org/corruption-of-inspectors-social-pressure/comment-page-1/#comment-613 Corruption In China Through Social Pressure: Downfall By Chinese Wedding. | Manufacturer China Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:22:33 +0000 http://www.qualityinspection.org/?p=1116#comment-613 [...] Quality Inspection blog recently did a post entitled, “Corruption of inspectors: the role of social pressure,” discussing the “risk of corruption of inspectors in factories.” The post posits [...] [...] Quality Inspection blog recently did a post entitled, “Corruption of inspectors: the role of social pressure,” discussing the “risk of corruption of inspectors in factories.” The post posits [...]

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